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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Myth of Positive Thinking, Part 1</title> <atom:link href="http://www.thisoldbrain.net/personal-development-baby-boom/positive-thinking/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.thisoldbrain.net/health-wellness-longevity/baby-boomer-generaton/positive-thinking/</link> <description>Life Mastery, Motivation, and Well-Being for Guys Over 50</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:25:06 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://www.thisoldbrain.net/health-wellness-longevity/baby-boomer-generaton/positive-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-2011</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:35:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.thisoldbrain.net/?p=1163#comment-2011</guid> <description>here you go&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thisoldbrain.net/repurpose-aging-boomers/motivation/fire-your-mind/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here you go</p><p><a
href="http://www.thisoldbrain.net/repurpose-aging-boomers/motivation/fire-your-mind/" rel="nofollow"></a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://www.thisoldbrain.net/health-wellness-longevity/baby-boomer-generaton/positive-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-2010</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 03:41:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.thisoldbrain.net/?p=1163#comment-2010</guid> <description>Good question. I will have to revive it. Watch for it in the near future. The original part 2 must have been deleted.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question. I will have to revive it. Watch for it in the near future. The original part 2 must have been deleted.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Guest</title><link>http://www.thisoldbrain.net/health-wellness-longevity/baby-boomer-generaton/positive-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-2009</link> <dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.thisoldbrain.net/?p=1163#comment-2009</guid> <description>Where is the second part? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the second part?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike Kirkeberg</title><link>http://www.thisoldbrain.net/health-wellness-longevity/baby-boomer-generaton/positive-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-1950</link> <dc:creator>Mike Kirkeberg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.thisoldbrain.net/?p=1163#comment-1950</guid> <description>It does occur to me that the title of that post could be better. Positive thinking, IMHO, is real. It&#039;s the power that is mythical.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does occur to me that the title of that post could be better. Positive thinking, IMHO, is real. It&#8217;s the power that is mythical.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://www.thisoldbrain.net/health-wellness-longevity/baby-boomer-generaton/positive-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-1949</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 02:29:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.thisoldbrain.net/?p=1163#comment-1949</guid> <description>Thanks for commenting. The thing I would say in reply is that I agree with you in this sense - core beliefs, core attitudes come from language and our learning histories. We are stuck with both and direct change is damn near impossible. If beliefs, attitudes, feelings, body sensations (BAFS), etceteras are both fixed and fluctuating, what are we left with? The only thing we have success in changing - our behavior. Positive feelings and thoughts are fine when they occur naturally. There is a lot of research that show that when we directly attempt to change thoughts, etc, the old ones actually become stronger. Google Daniel Wegner for many studies on this.The Secret I have to say is a pet peeve of mine. On the one hand, I think it is absolute bullshit and on the other, I wish I&#039;d thought of it!Mike
Take Care</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting. The thing I would say in reply is that I agree with you in this sense &#8211; core beliefs, core attitudes come from language and our learning histories. We are stuck with both and direct change is damn near impossible. If beliefs, attitudes, feelings, body sensations (BAFS), etceteras are both fixed and fluctuating, what are we left with? The only thing we have success in changing &#8211; our behavior. Positive feelings and thoughts are fine when they occur naturally. There is a lot of research that show that when we directly attempt to change thoughts, etc, the old ones actually become stronger. Google Daniel Wegner for many studies on this.</p><p>The Secret I have to say is a pet peeve of mine. On the one hand, I think it is absolute bullshit and on the other, I wish I&#8217;d thought of it!</p><p>Mike<br
/> Take Care</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kea11</title><link>http://www.thisoldbrain.net/health-wellness-longevity/baby-boomer-generaton/positive-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-1948</link> <dc:creator>kea11</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.thisoldbrain.net/?p=1163#comment-1948</guid> <description>Just happened upon this Post, although that&#039;s not true as I Googled &quot;positive thinking is a myth&quot;.That&#039;s a broad and incorrect conclusion; what is more accurate is that we are a combination of our childhood experiences and if these are predominantly negative and not balanced by positive experiences we can frame everything in order to justify our belief that no good can come to us. The effect of these experiences is also coloured by our core birth attitude.It&#039;s interesting that the Goal setting and positive thinking Guru&#039;s are all Alpha personalities. Funny that the best mode for meditating is the Alpha mode; seems to me if you don&#039;t have Alpha as part of your makeup then you&#039;ve got a lot of work to do. Alpha&#039;s start out ahead as they already believe they are God so affirming this just strengthens what is already manifested.Take this attitude and speak it in front of a bunch of wanna bees and of course you&#039;re going to make a good living; syndicate it on TV and the internet and you&#039;re going to be a squillionaire. Notice how most middle class people are broke and craving more of Maslow&#039;s hierarchy - so your market is huge and your effort is small as you already believe - it&#039;s your birthright.The Secret (IMHO) is nothing more than the plagirisation of centuries of knowledge; from the Bible and other worthy authors; this book has single handedly revived the Self- Help Industry and enabled it to rinse and repeat sales to a new generation of followers. The author, a capable and learned film-maker and brilliant contemporary marketer lucked onto a concept and Oprah. I suggest she, again, is a Alpha personality who had mapped out her success from birth. She speaks of her daughter getting her to read a positive book - probably the oft quoted and freshly modernised SGR. I prefer Napoleon Hill, Og Mandino and James Allen. The beauty of Og Mandino was that he was a drunkard and he only had the wherewithal to change when he held a gun to his head - that would unravel a few strands of core belief quickly.The rest of us need to forget about Goal setting and affirmations and manifestation and concentrate on changing their core beliefs about themselves. How easy is this - well lets say you were born last and your siblings decide to teach you the sky is red, that is, blue is red. When you go to school and tell everyone the sky is red - well your self image and confidence in others just took a severe beating. Who do you trust?Right at this moment you have been tipped upside down and you are worthless to the Community as you are unable to believe anymore with conviction. You have built the belief system one strand of information at a time until it has become a mooring rope constructed of thousands of strands. So now you have to unpick every strand (false belief) one piece at a time. How hard - have you ever tried to stop smoking.The only thing thats going to change you is a major event, upheaval or conviction. By all means Goal set, affirm, be positive but nothing will happen until you decide that it is true for you. The desire for the love of another person or people; health or grim prognosis is the only motivator that will bring about the burning desire to change your core belief system for most of us non-alpha&#039;s. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just happened upon this Post, although that&#8217;s not true as I Googled &#8220;positive thinking is a myth&#8221;.</p><p>That&#8217;s a broad and incorrect conclusion; what is more accurate is that we are a combination of our childhood experiences and if these are predominantly negative and not balanced by positive experiences we can frame everything in order to justify our belief that no good can come to us. The effect of these experiences is also coloured by our core birth attitude.</p><p>It&#8217;s interesting that the Goal setting and positive thinking Guru&#8217;s are all Alpha personalities. Funny that the best mode for meditating is the Alpha mode; seems to me if you don&#8217;t have Alpha as part of your makeup then you&#8217;ve got a lot of work to do. Alpha&#8217;s start out ahead as they already believe they are God so affirming this just strengthens what is already manifested.</p><p>Take this attitude and speak it in front of a bunch of wanna bees and of course you&#8217;re going to make a good living; syndicate it on TV and the internet and you&#8217;re going to be a squillionaire. Notice how most middle class people are broke and craving more of Maslow&#8217;s hierarchy &#8211; so your market is huge and your effort is small as you already believe &#8211; it&#8217;s your birthright.</p><p>The Secret (IMHO) is nothing more than the plagirisation of centuries of knowledge; from the Bible and other worthy authors; this book has single handedly revived the Self- Help Industry and enabled it to rinse and repeat sales to a new generation of followers. The author, a capable and learned film-maker and brilliant contemporary marketer lucked onto a concept and Oprah. I suggest she, again, is a Alpha personality who had mapped out her success from birth. She speaks of her daughter getting her to read a positive book &#8211; probably the oft quoted and freshly modernised SGR. I prefer Napoleon Hill, Og Mandino and James Allen. The beauty of Og Mandino was that he was a drunkard and he only had the wherewithal to change when he held a gun to his head &#8211; that would unravel a few strands of core belief quickly.</p><p>The rest of us need to forget about Goal setting and affirmations and manifestation and concentrate on changing their core beliefs about themselves. How easy is this &#8211; well lets say you were born last and your siblings decide to teach you the sky is red, that is, blue is red. When you go to school and tell everyone the sky is red &#8211; well your self image and confidence in others just took a severe beating. Who do you trust?</p><p>Right at this moment you have been tipped upside down and you are worthless to the Community as you are unable to believe anymore with conviction. You have built the belief system one strand of information at a time until it has become a mooring rope constructed of thousands of strands. So now you have to unpick every strand (false belief) one piece at a time. How hard &#8211; have you ever tried to stop smoking.</p><p>The only thing thats going to change you is a major event, upheaval or conviction. By all means Goal set, affirm, be positive but nothing will happen until you decide that it is true for you. The desire for the love of another person or people; health or grim prognosis is the only motivator that will bring about the burning desire to change your core belief system for most of us non-alpha&#8217;s.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Intelligent Anger Management is Not Managing Anger</title><link>http://www.thisoldbrain.net/health-wellness-longevity/baby-boomer-generaton/positive-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-1535</link> <dc:creator>Intelligent Anger Management is Not Managing Anger</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 14:15:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.thisoldbrain.net/?p=1163#comment-1535</guid> <description>[...] the positive player is not always right. Sometimes, things aren&#8217;t going well, and positive thinking really gets in the way of doing what is in your best [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the positive player is not always right. Sometimes, things aren&#8217;t going well, and positive thinking really gets in the way of doing what is in your best [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NeuronOutlaw</title><link>http://www.thisoldbrain.net/health-wellness-longevity/baby-boomer-generaton/positive-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-1238</link> <dc:creator>NeuronOutlaw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:46:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.thisoldbrain.net/?p=1163#comment-1238</guid> <description>You are on the right track.  Believing what others say is part of the problem.  Believing - period - is the main problem.  Understanding your experience  - now - is the challenge. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What would happen if you stop for a moment and do just that?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are on the right track.  Believing what others say is part of the problem.  Believing &#8211; period &#8211; is the main problem.  Understanding your experience  &#8211; now &#8211; is the challenge.</p><p>What would happen if you stop for a moment and do just that?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Josten</title><link>http://www.thisoldbrain.net/health-wellness-longevity/baby-boomer-generaton/positive-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-1234</link> <dc:creator>Josten</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:28:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.thisoldbrain.net/?p=1163#comment-1234</guid> <description>I must say i do not believe that positive thinking is a myth.  but to some it may it be a myth. Because they have not opened up to believing beyond there known belief.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say i do not believe that positive thinking is a myth.  but to some it may it be a myth. Because they have not opened up to believing beyond there known belief.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: NeuronOutlaw</title><link>http://www.thisoldbrain.net/health-wellness-longevity/baby-boomer-generaton/positive-thinking/comment-page-1/#comment-1154</link> <dc:creator>NeuronOutlaw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:36:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.thisoldbrain.net/?p=1163#comment-1154</guid> <description>I would like to agree with you.  &quot;I can&#039;t&quot; and &quot;I can&quot; are identical in context, random firings of neurons in a brain that is constantly firing neurons.  Both are like pop-ups on your computer screen.  You can choose to click the button or not click the button.  What counts is which direction your feet and hand and mouth take you.  Thinking is a tool.  When we look through our thoughts, we see the world through them. When we look at the world &quot;through&quot; the filter of thinking, our thoughts begin thinking us.  Take a step back and look at them.  Are they worth entertaining or not?  That&#039;s the question. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to agree with you.  &quot;I can&#039;t&quot; and &quot;I can&quot; are identical in context, random firings of neurons in a brain that is constantly firing neurons.  Both are like pop-ups on your computer screen.  You can choose to click the button or not click the button.  What counts is which direction your feet and hand and mouth take you.  Thinking is a tool.  When we look through our thoughts, we see the world through them. When we look at the world &quot;through&quot; the filter of thinking, our thoughts begin thinking us.  Take a step back and look at them.  Are they worth entertaining or not?  That&#039;s the question.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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